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about the troubles in her marriage, and about something else. >> i just told craig that there was something i needed to tell him. and, he listened. and i told him that i had feelings for him. and he said that he had feelings for me. and that was about as far as the conversation went that day. >> the next night, robbyn stayed over at her in laws, philip and linda's, because she was scheduled to take him to a doctor's appointment in the morning. and craig was at the house to. >> did you and craig have an internment relationship that night? >> we did. >> where was that? >> that was in philip in linda 's living room. >> where were philip and linda? >> they were asleep. >> the relationship continued from that night forward. robbyn said that craig would call her, often using a cell phone that a friend had gotten for him, to set up a rendezvous. they would often meet at the hunting lodge that craig was cashing at, after moving out of
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his girlfriend, tina. >> how many times were you intimate? probably 20 times. >> a few weeks into the affair, robbyn said that she told her husband carrey what was going on. >> how did he find out and know about the affair? >> i told him. >> how do the act when you told him? >> he was upset. he was very upset. and he said that if i was going to have an affair, he wishes it would've been with anybody else except for his brother. and he was very upset about it being's brother. >> and the prosecution asked robbyn, what did she see in her brother in law? robbyn already had carey, who by all accounts, wasn't devoted husband. doting father, and solid provider. why would she step out on him with craig? where the state portrayed as someone who did not once much out of life, except for time to hunt. craig, who is out of work on disability. and was squatting at a friend's
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hunting cabin. >>how did you think your life was going to improve by engaging in this relationship? >> at the time, i felt like craig was giving me some attention. and giving me some things that carry wasn't giving me. that at the time, i felt like that was where i need to be. with craig. >> but what were craig and robbyn going to do when word got out to the family? because we're did get out to craig and carey's father philip, and fast. >> philip was very angry and upset with me. >> and philip wasn't going to take the destruction of his family, and his family name lightly. jurors would next here from friends and colleagues of the lip, that when it came to the embarrassing relationship between the son and daughter in law. philip was gonna do anything he could to stop it. >> he said i'm gonna take craig out of the will. >> coming up! word of a fight in the family. bad blood, beginning to boil.
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ask your doctor about dupixent without talking to your doctor. act eight mr. harvey kieffer: i miss him, you know? i miss him, he was--he was a--he was a good friend. you know. he was a good friend. >> memories of philip resonated with his business partner, harvey. >> philip and i were probably
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as close friends as each one could have. >> a man as proud, as he was private. philip heidt would only open up about his troubles, to his most trusted associates. and the problem that he had on his hands in late august, 2008 was a doozy. >> the friday before, his death, while we were going to our meeting he says. sometimes i think i just want to jump off the bridge. and i said, philip. i said, it's not that bad. >> harvey thought philip was referring to the unnerving downturn in the 2008 real estate market. but no, phillips said that his problem stemmed from turmoil within his family. and now philip was gone. and his son craig was on trial, for shooting to death both him and his brother, and wounding his mother. the prosecutor will tell the jury not just the story of a taboo relationship between the man and his brother's wife. but also about an emotionally complicated position involving
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the black sheep son, and a head strong father, dead set against the affair. -- a few months before his death. a revelation with friends said board into his very soul. >> he was rarely mad, very upset. he just did not stand the idea that this would be in someone's heart. this marital affair was driving him up the wall. >> philip simply could not let this affair run his course his friend said. because more than real estate, philip live for his family. and his good name. it meant everything to him to keep all the heidt living in harmony. working hard to preserve the heidt ancestral land for future generations. but when philip confronted his son craig about the affair. craig had a surprising response, according to his mother. >> what did craig say about the affair? >> that if he wanted robbyn he would have robbyn. >> and what was that for you at
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the time in regards to that? >> he was kind of arrogant. >> he told his mom a few weeks before, if i want her i will have her. and i can't even imagine that you have a conversation like that with your mother. anyway, how are you gonna have thanksgiving dinner? >> for instance. >> with these dynamics. you can't. so he knew that mom and daddy would never accept it. >> the bad blood between craig and his family members quickly worsened, according to the prosecution. jurors heard about a heated argument craig and his brother carey had gotten into outside a sonic burger restaurant. and craig didn't seem to care who knew that things were toxic inside the heidt family. real estate agent, kristie campo. >> he said that they did not get along. that he was a back sheep of the family. and he wouldn't help them if they were on fire. >> craig said that he said the same sentiment to her. >> craig said that if his father was on fire, he would
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not urinate on his father to put him out. >> father and son, brother and brother, a husband and wife all square it up in the court. the story being told in the court was of the heidt family destroying itself. a match had been lit, as the prosecutor told him. and come late august, an explosion was about to go off. robbyn told the jurors about a driveway altercation a week or two before the shooting. between her and her father in law. an argument that became physical. >> philip said, you know, look around you. these are things that craig cannot give you. these are things that only carey can give you. and he said you don't understand how craig is. he has issues that you don't understand. and that upset me. i said, i'm leaving. i'm getting in the car and i'm leaving. so i got in my suburban, the window was rolled down, and i went to crank my car. and mr. philip reached in, took my keys and pushed my arm away. >> robbyn says that she told her about the incident with his father.
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the state theorize that it was about then that the tensions in the family became unbearable. a family friend named loretta recalled that carey told her about the fight between the two brothers that turned ugly. >> he craig walked into the house. and craig brings in the run. and he just threatened to shoot carey. and his daddy grabbed the gun. took the gun, and took it away. >> jurors sound photos of damage to the house caused by the two brothers. a damage, wall damage furniture. in court, loretta testified about what else she said carey told her. that during that fight, philip, the father, had given craig an ultimatum. >> if you don't leave robbyn alone, i'm gonna cut you out of the will. >> and in fact, phillip heidt's accountant testified that he and philip did discuss taking craig out of the will. and philip's son, carey, had
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already taken his wife name's out of a 3 million dollar trust he had set up for his children. it's not clear what craig or robbyn did or did not know about these papers. but then, prosecutor michael said financial concerns were definitely on craig's mind. >> money is not a small factor here? >> money is a large factor. meaning, he knew he had to provide for carey's wife like carey had been providing. and the only way that he was going to get any financial means to live the life that he wanted to life with robin was through an inheritance. and he has enough sense to know that he is not going to inherit anything if both parents are dead. >> jurors also heard the realtor christy campo's story, of craig asking to show him some territory. >> i showed him the house. he said he was going to purchase some more horses to start training them. so he said, he's asking how much more land he can buy with the house.
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>> state suggested that craig's house hunting showed premeditation. he never did own any land to sell off, as he told the realtor. so other than killing his family for the inheritance, how else would he get the money to close in on the new house and live with robin? the prosecutor asked her just that. >> to your knowledge, did you have any means to go by a quarter million-dollar piece of property? >> no. i don't think so. >> where was he going to get the money for you to live together? >> i couldn't answer that. he would have to. >> did you have the money yourself? >> not myself. no. >> then came that day in late august, the week before the murders on early monday morning. the countdown to a double homicide was about to begin as the prosecutor saw it. that friday night, robbyn had been with craig at the hunting cabin. >> that night, while i was there.
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he made the comment that if carey and philip weren't careful, that he would go old-school on them. >> do you know what he meant by that? >> i did not. >> the next morning, an odd thing happened at the cabin. craig and robbyn noticed a low flying helicopter that looked as though it was spying on them. robin asked her husband about it later that day. >> carey told me, that i need to remember he had friends in high places. any pointed up at the sky. and he didn't actually come out and tell me about the helicopter. i said i knew that that was you. >> in fact, philip asked a friend to see if the suv was at the cabin. and if so, to take some photos. he did locate this white suburban parked next to craig's truck. robin testified to the chopper surveillance. >> he had a very, very angry look on his face. >> ever seen that mad before? >> no. >> that surveillance by the friends of the helicopter,
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taking pictures of the cars. did that light the fuse do you think? >> the fuse was burning. and, that just helped it burn faster. you have to remember that the opportunity did not arise until that sunday night, when robbyn informed craig that carey was going to be over there. >> that sunday, carey took the children to church. when they got home, robbyn made them lunch. and then she and carey got into what would be one final argument. >> he was very upset because he had proved that i spent the night with craig on friday night. so he said he felt like it was best since he was so angry and upset that he would stay with his mother and father that night. so he packed his things and left around four. >> it would be the first time that carey would stay over and his parents house in 13 years. robin says she called craig and told him that carey had left. and where he was headed. she says she spoke to craig on the phone one last time before
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going to sleep. but, later that night, craig did one make more phone call to the old girlfriend, tina williams. >> i'm sorry for ruining your life. i'm sorry i can't help you financially. i'm sorry for involving you in my life, in my drama. and i'm thinking, okay. and i thought it was kind of strange. >> tina said she got the eerie sense that craig was fixing to do something. but she couldn't tell why. that's why she had wondered with regret later whether she could've prevented what was about to happen to the heidts in the next few hours. should she have told philip and miss linda early on about the disastrous affair. if they nipped it in the bud, would maybe the murders never have taken place? for the next several hours or so. what happens as you see it? >> i think the rage is still building up. and he knew that if he was ever gonna do something, now was the time. and he had all the people that stood between him and what he wanted.
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>> it was after midnight. husband, wife, and son in a modest house at the end of a quiet road, settled in for the night. their final night, as the esteemed heidt family. coming up! after the crime, craig heidt on tape. what may be the breakthrough clue in the case. >> as an investigator, some evidence stood out. >> when dateline continues!
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morning of august 25th, 2008, it was around five in the
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morning on august 20th of 2008. and robin heidt wife of carey heidt, heard a loud knock at the door. it was two officers and a chaplin. who told her that her husband carey and his parents had been shot. >> i said some how was carey killed and they said that he was shot in the head. >> the news left her numb. she told the jury, she could not breathe. a few hours later, craig called. >> he was crying really hard and said he couldn't believe what happened. and i said, are you okay? and he said no. and i said, craig, did you have
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anything to do with this. and he said no. >> she confronted him again when they were all gathered at his brother chris's house. >> and i saw craig there and i went over to him and i said, you know i want you to look at me and tell me if you've done this or not. and he said no. >> robbyn says that she saw craig at the funeral. and within a week, he asked her if they would be together again. >> he asked me if our relationship was gonna remain how it had been. i told him i wasn't sure at that time. >> in those tumultuous early days. the two kept it cool. and so did the detectives who came across what they considered a huge clue. the significance of which they would keep quiet about for months. it was a breakthrough that followed a simple if question. if craig had fired a shock on that night, would he have some telltale bruises from the recoil of the weapon? agent howard asked craig if he could take a look. >> i asked him, do you mind taking off your shirt. he said yes, he complied. and i was able to see two distinct bruises on his upper
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bicep in this area. >> but it wasn't just the fact that craig had the bruises where you would expect it. they said he already had a story to account for them. >> craig started to explain away, before he even took his shirt off that, i fell yesterday. as an investigator, hairs on the back of my neck stood up. >> bruises, the sizeable area on the right bicep and a smaller one on the left were photographed. >> i stepped out of this and after craig was asked to explain it where it occurred. looking noticeably more slender on tape, then he did sitting in court. craig described how he slipped to get out of the shower. >> i stepped out like this. and my right foot came out and fell like that right there. and landed on the toilet. right there, right there. when i landed, i kind of landed hugging this right here. type of thing.
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>> he said hit the toilet so hard that it shifted. >>i tried to keep my head from busting this up. cutting my head, it just all happened so fast that's just how i wound up. >> the states medical examiner took the stand and said craig's bruises look to him like a lot more like the kick from the shotgun than they did the injuries from a fall. and once more, while craig said he's fell just one day before the photos were taken. the medical examiner said the bruisers did not look fresh. >> they had to be at least about three days old because of the gold coloration. in order for the human body to get that gold color with a bruise it takes at least three days. >> in the larger theory of the crime, the one involving the old testament lust. the prosecutors argued that craig pull that trigger three times so that he could have it all. robin, the money to be with her, and the freedom from his parents disapproval. and they said that he thought he was getting away with it. for a while. >> he needed me. and i was there for him.
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and i needed him for support so we had each other. >> a few weeks after the funeral, robin and craig visited the cemetery together to throw away the dead flowers on philip and carey's graves. by christmas, they were back together as a couple. and in january, craig moved in. taking carey's old side of the marital bed. he started taking his brother's children on outings with robin, but looking back, the sister in law said it just didn't feel right. >> we did look like a family, we were acting like everything was right. and it was wrong. >> robbyn said that she would try to end it. and craig would talk her out of it. the two even started planning a wedding. robbyn tried on address at this local boutique. and they bought these rings. >> we went and looked at rings one-time. and when we went to look at them, they were on sale. so, we went ahead and approaches the rings. >> [inaudible] >> i did. >> and when craig needed an
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attorney it was robbyn who pony up $60,000 for legal counsel. money, she says she got from the insurance payout following her husband carey's death. >> i offered to pay for it at that time. i believed in craig and i wanted him to have good representation. >> do you regret having paid that money? >> yes i do. >> even after craig's arrest, robin said that they tried to keep the relationship going. jailhouse visits. correspondence. >> we wrote letters back and forth. >> and where are those letters today? >> i don't have those letters anymore. >> what did you do with them? >> i burned them. >> but the jury had only heard half the case. the defense was about to say, hang on. look at the prosecutor's case very carefully, and you won't find a shred of hard evidence tying craig to the awful crime. >> no dna linking him. no blood.
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officially stay open after president biden signed a stopgap funding measure just before the midnight deadline. it comes after the senate voted on the house house bill that would keep the government open for 45 days. the continued resolution lacks funding for ukraine, spending cuts for border policy changes, this caps a chaotic new week in congress and a day full of surprises on capitol hill. now, back to dateline. k to dateline. this man is innocent of these innocent of these charges.
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charges. >> craig heidt sat in a georgia courtroom accused of gunning down his father, brother, and mother. two of them dead. the state argued that he wanted to be with his brother's wife, and his brother's life. craig's defense attorney was about to present his case. craig's relatives, aunts, uncles and cousins have been listening for five days to the prosecutions arguments against one of their own. and where it was at least some of the extended clan did not know exactly where they stood. sheriff, you weren't so clear as to where to put the family. they were divided on what they believed had happened in that house and whether craig was the killer. >> i don't think they knew where to sit. here's my nephew, here's my
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brother, here is my cousin and here is my son. >> maybe you can persuade me of the evidence, mister prosecutor. but there's still -- here is my blood? >> yes. >> for those closest to craig, his brother -- linda asked not to be shown on camera but told the jurors that she didn't think that craig had anything to do with the shootings. >> was he in a position to judge his general demeanor towards you? >> yes. >> and how would you describe that? >> worried about me. as protective as he could be. and love towards me. >> has he said anything to you throughout those meetings or in your time with him to give you any reason after this factor
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that he was involved? >> no. >> if a mother's love wasn't enough to convince the jury of craig's innocence jurors also heard from craig's surviving brother. the middle son, chris. his territory would call into question the prosecutors story of an air double sun and the combustible family dynamic that he ruptured. chris told the jury that over the years there was no history of bad blood between craig and the parents. >> i wouldn't say anyone was specifically a back sheep of the family we, all have our own interests. >> and chris explained that while the affair between craig and robbyn had caused friction in the family. craig in the father phillips relationship was far from over. >> there was a little tension, to what was going on in our family and my dad was upset. with that situation. but no, there was no-- their relationship was still close to my knowledge. >> and one of that violent tussle over a gun that supposedly broke out between craig and his brother carey, close to the time of the murders? chris now cast doubt about whether the fight maybe even happen at all. >> did he ever tell you about any type of confrontation in the family home where guns were pulled and where your father allegedly wrestled a gun away from somebody? did he ever tell you about that?
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>> no sir. >> chris said his mother never told him about any fight either. and that the damage to the family's home, caused by the scuffle was really just normal wear and tear. >> house was almost 40 years old 39 years old at that time. but three boys grew up there, with seven grandchildren. >> next chris explained that is early as that first morning of the crime. he got the sense that authorities were targeting craig. for instance when detectives searched the hunting cabin where craig was staying. >> when they came out they actually had bags of clothes and shoes. and they had taken the shoes that he was wearing. so, at that point i probably started feeling that they were focusing on him. very heavily. >> and when chris later spoke with detectives, he said that his hunch was confirmed. >> they were basically trying to convince me that craig did it. >> and the defense said if you
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want proof that authorities had blinders on about craig heidt from day one, just look at all the stories that they did not overturn when it came to other heidt family members. >> at the time i did attempt to get carey heidt's phone records. but did not receive them from the phone company. >> what about chris heidt? >> did not get chris heidt's phone records. >> what about allen heidt? >> i did not get allen heidt's phone records. >> and he did not ask you to lay all your guns out or identify your residence? >> no sir. he did not. and i did not show them to anyone. >> they cross over other hike family members says the defense. but truly disturbing where the very real, legitimate, and possibly dangerous suspects outside the heidt klan. that the defense said worn properly investigated. the jurors would next hearing about those potentially dropped leads. and the biggest problem of all in the states case, according to the defense, the total lack of physical evidence tying craig heidt to the crime. >> no hard, concrete evidence in this case. which is i think what we should demand. >> coming up!
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this. never. had a couple of drug bust, but that's it. >> when philip heidt, his wife, and son were all shot in the home in 2008, neighbors were surprised but perhaps not shocked. that treeline rural lane called springfield egypt road might look bucolic. but it had seen its share of visits from law enforcement. >> we have a certain element in this neighborhood. and a lot of things happened that surprised me. >> now on the stand for the defense in his brother craig's murder trial, chris heidt told the jury about the potentially
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dangerous elements who lived on his parents road. >> there had been a methamphetamine lab. they had actually went in and prosecuted this guy twice for having the lap there. >> chris said that before his father died, philip expressed concern that the man was getting out of prison. could philip and carey's deaths have something to do with these country drug manufacturers? it was just as likely as the murders involving craig heidt, the defense had argued. and one of the many avenues pointing away from craig heidt that investigators chose not to go down. the defense attorney would argue in court that once the investigators learned about that affair between craig and robin, they decided that they had their man. when in fact, the defense would say that the true killer may have been trumped someone involved with philip heidt's real estate dealings. a business center that had
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taken a swamp that. if jody was in for the defense. she was phillip's longtime assistant. and that testimony suggested that if elected and tell her something, then it probably did not happen. >> he told me so much sometimes, i you know what how you want to stick your finger in your ear and go like this? >> joanne said philip never told her either about a physical fight in his home between the sons, craig and carey. and once more, to hear joe and tell it. detectives may have overlooked the real power tank about to explode in phillip's life. >> he had a lot of pressure on him. business wise. >> joann describe to the jury just how big and varied phillips impressive business holdings were. two from his real estate investments. >> there was a probably 18 entities he was involved in. >> two is connections with cattle investors across georgia and beyond. >> there was someone georgia, but he had them in kentucky, he had cows all over. >> now she told the story that by the summer of 2008's the real estate bubble bursting her boss stop selling and the banks began calling. second and third demands for past two payments of 50 and $60,000. the defense suggested had someone been on the shorthand
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of one of phillip heidt's dealings? and for reasons of money, and revenge, had wanted him in his family dead? there was evidence to suggest that said the defense. >> i know this one in particular that got pretty irate. >> joanne told the jury about one strong armed banker that according to testimony, had rattled philip to his core. >> he was really upset, i mean, when he came in his face was real red. he talked about it for a couple of days. i mean, that's how upset he was. >> and yet jurors were now heard testimony of business records of philip and carries, that may never have been scrutinized by authorities. >> did he ever ask you to provide any business documents in particular for them to have all been in? >> no they did not. >> another witness had already testified about information left untouched by detectives. >> the interview, i don't think i gave him any financial documents. >> but if anybody in the professional pass was trying to make a statement by killing him and his family, the defense said, we may never know. because of its next theme. the crime scene was mishandled by police on several key
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fronts. for one thing, the defense pointed to a list which authorities had kept showing who entered the crime scene. and asked the question, how could anyone trust a crime scene that was visited by 179 people? people? people? people? people? do you think that it's a good thing or not so good thing? in a lot of crimes? i have kicks play that the struck just weeks of time. >> what about a potential that howard and his team might not have burned down completely? some tire tracks authorities believe were made by a car emergency vehicle, but which the defense argued weren't fully investigated. >> if it were hypothetically tire trucks, could you or could you not take photographs to determine the possibility?
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>> it's possible. >> even more intriguing will look like a bloody footprint by this crime scene photos. investigators said it most likely was not the shooter's. but instead might have been made by the first responder to the scene. at times, it seemed that the authorities didn't remember the bloody printed all. >> i don't remember the shoe print. >> were you aware of any photograph taken of the bloody footprint? >> i'm not aware of one. >> overlooked clues in the investigation might be one thing, said the defense lawyer. but the true sign of his innocence was this, in all of the volumes of files, dozens of interviews, hundreds of man hours generated in this case, there was not a single piece of physical evidence tying him to
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the crime. >> no footprints. no fingerprints and any of these crimes. no surveillance video. no dna linking him. no blood. no hard, concrete evidence in this case. which is what we should demand. >> defense attorney chipped away at what he said the state had tried to pass off as physical evidence in the case. shotgun shell in his truck might link into the crime, defense said that type of ammo was so common, it is used by 40% of hunters. what about those bruises on craig's arm? which he supposedly got from the recoil when he shot his family? the defense brought its own firearms expert to the stand
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who put everything into question. >> are you aware of what shotguns do? >> yes. >> it is difficult for me to put a full-size shotgun in position and get it on its right arm. it's not a ballistic of the gun. it is unusual. >> not only that. defenses expert turned on its head the state's theory of the sequence. >> the son was shot first. the mother was shot second. philip was shot third. >> defense experts also said that the shooter or shooters would likely have had a back spatter spirit of blood. don was found on greater his clothes. lastly, the experts said that there may have been one or more shooter. >> someone else could've been in location and shot her for
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that matter that location, is that possible? >> that's possible. >> in one final move before craig's defense attorney rested his case, craig's mother returned to the stand. linda heidt once again chose not to have her face shown. you could hear her read a letter of love and reconciliation, which the father wrote to craig. it was dated a few weeks before his death. some of the best evidence, said the defense, that the bond between father and son was as strong as ever. it was never a motive for murder. >> son, i appreciate everything you do and have done. you're my mom and i love you. we are all going through a difficult time. don't let life pass you by. >> the letter brought craig to tears. if anyone wondered if craig himself will speak, they soon had their answer. >> your name is craig? >> yes. >> with the jurors removed from the courtroom, craig was asked whether he was satisfied with
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his defense council. >> absolutely. 100 percent. >> craig chose not to testify. and doing so, craig passed up the chance to give jurors his side story, also the opportunity for the prosecutor to ask some pointed questions. >> would you like have cross-examined craig? >> that's one of the reasons i became a prosecutor, to cross examine people. >> now, it was up to the jury to use what they did here to decide craig heights faith. >> you have to sleep at night once you make this decision. >> coming up, deep divisions, difficult deliberation. i'm celebrating my clearer skin... my way. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin, even at 5 years. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to clearer skin with skyrizi - this is my moment. there's nothing on my skin and that means everything! ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time. ask your doctor about skyrizi, the #1 dermatologist-prescribed biologic in psoriasis. learn how abbvie could help you save.
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first, the attorneys presented closing arguments. the prosecution -- >> they want you to think somebody did this harmful crime and made a statement? there was a statement made, all right. he was made by craig height, who murdered. that's who made the statement. >> and the defense. >> the bottom line is, they do not have any physical evidence that directly links this crime to craig height. >> craig height attorney reminded the jury just what was at stake. >> this is a court of law. this is not a time to take a leap of faith on another man's life. >> and in the final dramatic courtroom moment, prosecutor reenacted with the state believed really happened in the
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white family home when the crimes occurred. starting with the moment they said craig heights sneaked in the dead of night and aimed shotgun at his sleeping brother. >> here he opened his eyes. boom! it's off to the races. he then turned around, stepped forward to his bed. his daddy is lying there, second shot. boom, but at the bed. mama is not there. drops the gun, and then he hears her voice. phil! he flings it up, third shot. >> a vivid image with one last question. the reason why he didn't like the gasoline he said he poured all over the house. prosecutor said after the shootings, craig thought his mother was dead and was shocked to hear her on the phone with 9-1-1.
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>> getting ready to light it, here's his mom's voice, panics. >> eight women form and that would decide craig heights they had the case. >> it was very nerve-racking because you know this family has already been through this tragedy and the other person and their family was going to be, you know, possibly, put away for life. >> first, they elected a four person. >> a vote. >> a vote? >> see where brad. >> show of hands? >> show of hands. >> what did you come up with? >> 48. >> what was the divide? >> mostly not guilty. >> eight not guilty? >> it was a lot of ground to make up in one direction or the other. the biggest thing craig had going for him about the jury, the lack of physical evidence. >> would bring me back was a smoking gun. it's a dna, fingerprints, murder weapon. >> where is it? >> exactly. i think that brought a lot of people back. this guy didn't do it. there's nothing that says he, yeah, he did it. >> in the absence of physical
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evidence, the jurors were left to ponder the less tangible aspects of the case. like, just who was this person sitting before them? >> what sense did you have a craig? >> he seem like a nice guy. >> could a match and him doing that out of just anger. i don't think he hated his family. i don't think he hated his brother. >> the jurors weren't sure that the affair along between robin and craig was enough to push him to murder.
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>> sleeping with your brothers wife doesn't necessarily make you a killer. >> not at all. we talked about that in deliberation. he's a cheat. sleeping with his, wife like he's a. >> i don't think he was the person who are in the relationship. that he had with robin. i felt like she pursued him. >> she was the aggressor? >> yeah. i think robin gave him something to hold on to. something that was real in his mind. >> and your deliberations, did you talk about robin? >> yes. >> yes. >> but she wasn't charged with anything. >> no, we would get into a discussion. wait a minute. >> we are talking about it and like, she's not the one here on trial. let's go back to the focus of craig. he is the one that is here. >> the 12 jurors who had started as a deeply divided group, we're nearing consensus. jimmy, the four person, urge each of them to stand their ground until they felt sure. >> you got a problem, bring it up. you know, we have all night.
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we can come back to. you gotta sleep at night. let's make this decision. >> as night fell, the judge was given word that the jury had reached a verdict in the double murder trial of crick heights. >> count one, we the jury find the defendant, greg height, guilty. >> craig height, guilty on all counts. convicted of murdering his father and brother and shooting his mother with intent to kill. >> i cried the whole time it was being read. i knew it was going to take another son away from linda. that was really hard. >> did everyone get a good night sleep after this? >> i don't think i slept good for another week and a half. >> looking back, the jurors said it was the sum of all of the things they heard and all the evidence they saw that got them to guilty. >> it wasn't any one specific piece of evidence. everything, all together, came to him. >> some among craig's friends and family, like craig's cousin, be mentally disagree with the jury's decision. >> if craig had came to me and said, mark, i didn't. i wouldn't believe it. i know he didn't do it. you know, that's exactly how much i believe the. >> mark believed the real killer was still on the loose. >> there's no closure. there's still the murder that is still out there.
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nobody feels any safer, any better, at this point. >> even the jurors feel there is a piece of the puzzle still missing. >> do you think it is the whole story? >> now. >> no. >> do you think there are more people involved here? >> i think there are more people. >> behind the current. >> i think there more people who knew about it. >> as you know very well, there are a great number of people waiting for the other shoe to drop in this case. are they kidding themselves? >> i can tell you this, if there was anybody else involved with the murder of philip and carrie hyde, it is against linda hug. craig hyde holds the key. >> it has been years since the terrible events on springfield, egypt road. linda, the matriarch, made a remarkable recovery. inspiring so many with her grace and grit. >> linda is the strongest person. an incredible person. i didn't know she had it in her to be that strong. >> i think philip would've been very proud of linda. for happy with her. >> philip is gone now. carry, to. craig is locked away. to life sentences, plus another 85 years. i think i'm county had never seen what happened to the highs and hopes to never to again. >> i'm craig melvin this is dateline.

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